# IrcMeetings ## Basic info - **Time:** Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network ## Topics ### Current topics - **Updated, closed: change time of community meeting to one hour later** - In general, it seemed most people are okay with this. - For the next few weeks, community meetings will be at 2PM CEST/CET instead of 1PM. - For real this time. - **Updated: release openvpn 2.6.11** - It seems like it makes sense to do a 2.6.11 release after Windows tunnelcrack mitigations are merged. - From the looks of it, this isn't a major disruptive change so could be merged and released in 2.6. - For the proposed Linux tunnelcrack mitigations, going for policy routing and such, it may need to go to 2.7 and it's quite a big change. - Waiting for cron2 to do a review/merge pass on Windows tunnelcrack patch. - **Updated: forums topics** - rob0 and novaflash will work to get access and then find some time to look at solving the cloudflare related issue. - Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address. - Email confirmation on registration was suggested. - Mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic) - Access for mods to logs so one can see what others did - **Updated: Security mailing list procedures** - We unfortunately let the key expire last week and had to quickly issue a renewed key. - This was done and the renewed key has been distributed. - **mattock topics** - PR created to add t_server_null tests to buildbot. - There's a parallelism issue to fix between t_server_null.sh and t_client.sh - will work on that. - **Tunnelcrack progress [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack)** - Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations: - Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review. - Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress. - macOS: to be determined. - iOS: to be determined. - Android: not vulnerable. - **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change** - Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment. - ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today. - There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation. - A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this. - (in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API) - **donation collection** - From earlier exploration, it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations. - What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on. - There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider. - PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees. - Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing. - GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating. - Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us. - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** - Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it. - Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined. - When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024. - Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest. - Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design. - There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [CommunityMeetup2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024) - **website release process** - Waiting for a faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on the main site. - Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see. - **Status of SBOM** - There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others. - For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does. - The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client. - **status of trac/wiki** - No progress since last meeting. - This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done - Should have access controls so only approved members can edit. - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** - This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini Howto](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) - The company will send this to a tech writer to redo based on [example-fingerprint info](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc. - Having a simple guide online will help adoption. - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** - Tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco - Linux, FreeBSD, Windows - Requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it. - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** - matt provided icons in [Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) - Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time. - **software code signing topic** - Company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is the same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. - In the future, we could possibly switch the community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys. - Depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure. - Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. - **Management interface documentation on the main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt** - novaflash will pick this up at some point. ## Mattock topics ### --dev null server testing Latest status in [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Additional details in [dev-null test suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh). Potential next steps: - Expand the test suite - Integrate into Buildbot (i.e., get to production) - Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration) Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes/improvements here and there to be done: - Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default) ### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing - In a previous meeting, we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net* - The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/) - aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g., rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g., to a local filesystem on the buildmaster - **Option 1 (hacky):** use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net - **Option 2 (less hacky):** use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net - Both options require a fair amount of tinkering - Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers)