IrcMeetings

Basic info

  • Time: Wednesday 22 May 2024 at 14:00 CEST (12:00 UTC)
  • Place: #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network

Topics

Current topics

  • New: DCO-win update needed

    • There was a responsible disclosure report made regarding DCO windows driver. Details are currently under embargo.
    • A new Windows installer release will be made available shortly and details will be published then.
    • This will be an I002 Windows installer release for 2.6.10.
  • New: community.openvpn.net server maintenance

    • There was some downtime here and after looking into it, the conclusion is that the software is out-of-date and needs love.
    • We were already planning to migrate to another wiki solution, so this has provided an impetus to accelerate this.
    • mattock will do a PoC of wiki.js and outline and we will make a decision once those are up, and then go for it.
  • Updated: Security mailing list

    • It was proposed to add df12k to the security mailing list. If no objections this will be done.
    • No objections. He will be added.
  • Updated: forums topics

    • rob0 and novaflash will work to get access and then find some time to look at solving the cloudflare related issue.
    • Unfortunately the past weeks were difficult to find time - holidays and travel and such. Will find time and push this forward.
    • Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address.
      • Email confirmation on registration was suggested.
      • Mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic)
      • Access for mods to logs so one can see what others did
  • Updated: mattock topics

    • There is code waiting for review/merging but one of the reviewers is on vacation.
    • Will in the meantime tackle the community.openvpn.net / wiki topic.
  • Release openvpn 2.6.11

    • It seems like it makes sense to do a 2.6.11 release after Windows tunnelcrack mitigations are merged.
    • From the looks of it this isn't a major disruptive change so could be merged and released in 2.6.
    • For the proposed Linux tunnelcrack mitigations, going for policy routing and such, it may need to go to 2.7 and it's quite a big change.
    • Waiting for cron2 to do a review/merge pass on Windows tunnelcrack patch.
  • Tunnelcrack progress TunnelCrack community wiki article

    • Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations:
      • Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review.
      • Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress.
      • macOS: to be determined.
      • iOS: to be determined.
      • Android: not vulnerable.
  • DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change

    • Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment.
    • ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today.
    • There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation.
    • A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this.
      • In a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API.
  • Donation collection

    • From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations.
    • What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on.
    • There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider.
    • PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees.
    • Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing.
    • GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating.
    • Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us.
  • OpenVPN community meetup 2024

    • Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it.
    • Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined.
    • When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024.
    • Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest.
    • Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design.
    • There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: CommunityMeetup2024
  • Website release process

    • Waiting for a faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on the main site.
    • Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see.
  • Status of SBOM

    • There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others.
    • For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does.
    • The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client.
  • Status of trac/wiki

    • No progress since last meeting.
    • This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done
    • Should have access controls so only approved members can edit.
  • Static-key mini how-to is outdated.

    • This page is outdated badly: Static Key Mini Howto
    • The company will send this to a tech writer to redo based on example-fingerprint.rst info and also retain a link to that GitHub doc.
    • Having a simple guide online will help adoption.
  • OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.

    • Tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco
    • Linux, FreeBSD, windows
    • Requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it
  • What's going on with new taskbar icons?

    • Matt provided icons in Issue #595
    • Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time
  • Software code signing topic

    • The company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is the same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing.
    • In the future we could possibly switch community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys.
    • Depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure.
    • Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now.
  • Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt

    • novaflash will pick this up at some point

Mattock topics

--dev null server testing

Latest status in Server Side Testing Improvement Plan. Additional details in dev-null-test-suite.rst. Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is t_server_null.sh.

Potential next steps:

  • Expand the test suite
  • Integrate into Buildbot (i.e., get to production)
  • Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration)

Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes/improvements here and there to be done:

  • Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default)

Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing

  • In a previous meeting, we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on build.openvpn.net
  • The tool to use to publish is aptly
  • Aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g., rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g., to a local filesystem on the buildmaster
    • Option 1 (hacky): use inotifywait with rsync or scp to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net
    • Option 2 (less hacky): use NFS to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net
    • Both options require a fair amount of tinkering
  • Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers)
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