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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # IrcMeetings |
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| 3 | ## Basic info |
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| 5 | - **Time:** Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 6 | - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 8 | ## Topics |
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| 10 | ### Current topics |
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| 12 | - **Updated, closed: change time of community meeting to one hour later** |
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| 13 | - In general, it seemed most people are okay with this. |
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| 14 | - For the next few weeks, community meetings will be at 2PM CEST/CET instead of 1PM. |
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| 15 | - For real this time. |
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| 17 | - **Updated: release openvpn 2.6.11** |
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| 18 | - It seems like it makes sense to do a 2.6.11 release after Windows tunnelcrack mitigations are merged. |
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| 19 | - From the looks of it, this isn't a major disruptive change so could be merged and released in 2.6. |
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| 20 | - For the proposed Linux tunnelcrack mitigations, going for policy routing and such, it may need to go to 2.7 and it's quite a big change. |
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| 21 | - Waiting for cron2 to do a review/merge pass on Windows tunnelcrack patch. |
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| 23 | - **Updated: forums topics** |
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| 24 | - rob0 and novaflash will work to get access and then find some time to look at solving the cloudflare related issue. |
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| 25 | - Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address. |
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| 26 | - Email confirmation on registration was suggested. |
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| 27 | - Mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic) |
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| 28 | - Access for mods to logs so one can see what others did |
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| 30 | - **Updated: Security mailing list procedures** |
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| 31 | - We unfortunately let the key expire last week and had to quickly issue a renewed key. |
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| 32 | - This was done and the renewed key has been distributed. |
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| 34 | - **mattock topics** |
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| 35 | - PR created to add t_server_null tests to buildbot. |
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| 36 | - There's a parallelism issue to fix between t_server_null.sh and t_client.sh - will work on that. |
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| 38 | - **Tunnelcrack progress [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack)** |
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| 39 | - Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations: |
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| 40 | - Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review. |
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| 41 | - Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress. |
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| 42 | - macOS: to be determined. |
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| 43 | - iOS: to be determined. |
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| 44 | - Android: not vulnerable. |
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| 46 | - **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change** |
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| 47 | - Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment. |
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| 48 | - ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today. |
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| 49 | - There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation. |
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| 50 | - A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this. |
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| 51 | - (in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API) |
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| 53 | - **donation collection** |
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| 54 | - From earlier exploration, it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations. |
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| 55 | - What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on. |
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| 56 | - There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider. |
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| 57 | - PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees. |
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| 58 | - Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing. |
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| 59 | - GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating. |
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| 60 | - Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us. |
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| 62 | - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** |
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| 63 | - Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it. |
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| 64 | - Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined. |
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| 65 | - When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024. |
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| 66 | - Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest. |
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| 67 | - Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design. |
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| 68 | - There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [CommunityMeetup2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024) |
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| 70 | - **website release process** |
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| 71 | - Waiting for a faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on the main site. |
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| 72 | - Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see. |
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| 74 | - **Status of SBOM** |
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| 75 | - There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others. |
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| 76 | - For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does. |
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| 77 | - The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client. |
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| 79 | - **status of trac/wiki** |
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| 80 | - No progress since last meeting. |
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| 81 | - This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done |
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| 82 | - Should have access controls so only approved members can edit. |
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| 84 | - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** |
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| 85 | - This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini Howto](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) |
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| 86 | - The company will send this to a tech writer to redo based on [example-fingerprint info](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc. |
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| 87 | - Having a simple guide online will help adoption. |
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| 89 | - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** |
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| 90 | - Tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco |
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| 91 | - Linux, FreeBSD, Windows |
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| 92 | - Requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it. |
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| 94 | - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** |
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| 95 | - matt provided icons in [Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) |
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| 96 | - Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time. |
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| 98 | - **software code signing topic** |
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| 99 | - Company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is the same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. |
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| 100 | - In the future, we could possibly switch the community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys. |
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| 101 | - Depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure. |
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| 102 | - Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. |
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| 104 | - **Management interface documentation on the main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt** |
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| 105 | - novaflash will pick this up at some point. |
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| 107 | ## Mattock topics |
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| 109 | ### --dev null server testing |
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| 111 | Latest status in [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Additional details in [dev-null test suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh). |
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| 113 | Potential next steps: |
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| 115 | - Expand the test suite |
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| 116 | - Integrate into Buildbot (i.e., get to production) |
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| 117 | - Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration) |
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| 119 | Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes/improvements here and there to be done: |
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| 121 | - Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default) |
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| 123 | ### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing |
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| 125 | - In a previous meeting, we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net* |
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| 126 | - The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/) |
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| 127 | - aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g., rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g., to a local filesystem on the buildmaster |
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| 128 | - **Option 1 (hacky):** use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net |
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| 129 | - **Option 2 (less hacky):** use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net |
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| 130 | - Both options require a fair amount of tinkering |
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| 131 | - Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers) |
