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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # IrcMeetings |
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| 3 | ## Basic info |
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| 5 | - Time: Wednesday 19 June 2024 at 14:00 CEST (12:00 UTC) |
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| 6 | - Place: #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 8 | ## Topics |
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| 10 | ### Current topics |
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| 12 | - **Updated: release openvpn 2.6.11** |
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| 13 | There is a security issue reported by reynir that is resolved, and we want to get that out in 2.6.11 tomorrow. |
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| 14 | The tunnelcrack mitigations for Windows are held back because we have had absolutely no response on the mailing lists for testing these and confirming that it doesn't break things. |
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| 15 | If someone can contribute to testing this we can follow up with a 2.6.12 release in a few weeks that contains the tunnelcrack mitigations for Windows. |
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| 17 | - **New: buildbot PRs need attention** |
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| 18 | Getting these merged soonish would help avoid nasty merge conflicts down the line |
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| 19 | [Allow skipping build types](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-buildbot/pull/50) |
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| 20 | [Add smoketest builds for openvpn3, openvpn3-linux and ovpn-dco](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-buildbot/pull/51) |
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| 21 | [PR 48](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-buildbot/pull/48) |
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| 22 | Developers have been pinged in the meeting about these, so they'll take a look when they can. |
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| 24 | - **New: fixing openvpn3-linux builds in Buildbot** |
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| 25 | Mattock has this almost working. Some platforms will have to be skipped because openvpn3-linux / gdbuspp dependencies (Meson in particular) are too old or missing. |
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| 26 | As an aside, OpenVPN3 Linux v22 dev for Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Fedora 39 and 40 are in the release process. |
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| 27 | Next step is a 'regular' OpenVPN3 Linux v23 release again. |
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| 29 | - **New: Linux arm64 buildbot workers** |
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| 30 | Mattock has done initial research. |
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| 31 | Docker seems to support (QEMU) emulated non-native containers, but Buildbot might be missing the glue to make it work. |
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| 32 | Patching Buildbot should not be *that* difficult. |
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| 33 | External (arm64) Docker host might be a more performant alternative option. |
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| 35 | - **New: how to proceed with lzo2.pc** |
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| 36 | pc file suggests "all includes should be done without `lzo/` prefix" - which is generally not a bad idea, but needs code changes beyond configure (right?) |
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| 37 | There are some options to make changes here. For now we'll just keep working around this issue. |
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| 38 | One thing seems clear; it would be too early to rip it out, it would most likely affect too many people still using it despite the fact that they shouldn't. |
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| 39 | An option we have is to use the OpenVPN3 implementation of lzo and port that to OpenVPN2, to solve this. |
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| 40 | This is a topic that will be moved to the OpenVPN community meetup 2024. |
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| 42 | - **New: run tests of 2.x against openvpn3? how?** |
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| 43 | There is a 'null client' variant of ovpncli that allows to make VPN connections but not fully, for testing purposes. |
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| 44 | This is in the openvpn3 repository. |
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| 46 | - **Updated: community.openvpn.net trac wiki** |
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| 47 | Wiki.js felt quite awkward and counterintuitive in practical tests done by mattock. It seems to focus on bling rather than usability. |
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| 48 | Xwiki felt quite bulky and enterprisey (a.k.a. full of "stuff") in the practical tests by mattock. It seems an overkill for our simple use-case. |
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| 49 | Mediawiki no longer feels as nasty as it once did :) |
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| 50 | Maybe some Git-based wiki-type solution would be ok? |
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| 52 | - **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change** |
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| 53 | Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment. |
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| 54 | ordex will send a **patchset v4** based on feedback received over the past days. |
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| 55 | There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation. |
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| 56 | A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this. |
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| 57 | (in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API) |
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| 59 | - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** |
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| 60 | There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [CommunityMeetup2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024) |
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| 61 | We're basically at the point where we can prepare a mailing and send out invites to people. |
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| 62 | Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Exact details of meeting room to be determined. |
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| 63 | When: Set to 20-22 September 2024. |
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| 64 | Shirts: novaflash will talk to matt about this. |
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| 66 | - **forums topics** |
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| 67 | rob0 and novaflash will work to get access and then find some time to look at solving the cloudflare related issue. |
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| 68 | Unfortunately the past weeks were difficult to find time - holidays and travel and such. Will find time and push this forward. |
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| 69 | Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address. |
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| 70 | - email confirmation on registration was suggested. |
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| 71 | - mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic) |
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| 72 | - access for mods to logs so one can see what others did |
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| 74 | - **Tunnelcrack progress [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack)** |
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| 75 | Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations: |
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| 76 | Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review. |
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| 77 | Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress. |
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| 78 | macOS: to be determined. |
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| 79 | iOS: to be determined. |
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| 80 | Android: not vulnerable. |
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| 82 | - **donation collection** |
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| 83 | From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations. |
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| 84 | What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on. |
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| 85 | There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider. |
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| 86 | PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees. |
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| 87 | Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing. |
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| 88 | GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating. |
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| 89 | Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us. |
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| 91 | - **website release process** |
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| 92 | Waiting for faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on main site. |
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| 93 | Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see. |
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| 95 | - **Status of SBOM** |
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| 96 | There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others. |
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| 97 | For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does. |
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| 98 | The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client. |
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| 100 | - **Security mailing list** |
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| 102 | - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** |
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| 103 | This page is outdated badly: [Static-key mini how-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) |
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| 104 | company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [example-fingerprint info](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that github doc. |
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| 105 | having a simple guide online will help adoption |
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| 107 | - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** |
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| 108 | tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco |
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| 109 | linux, freebsd, windows |
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| 110 | requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it |
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| 112 | - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** |
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| 113 | matt provided icons in [issue 595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) |
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| 114 | last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time |
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| 116 | - **software code signing topic** |
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| 117 | company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. |
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| 118 | in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys. |
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| 119 | depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure. |
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| 120 | also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. |
