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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # IrcMeetings |
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| 3 | ## Basic info |
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| 5 | - **Time:** Wednesday 8 May 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 6 | - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 8 | ## Topics |
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| 10 | ### Current topics |
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| 12 | - **Closed: Discussion related to DNS IV flag** |
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| 13 | *This was done with a IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_V2 proto flag.* |
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| 15 | - **New, closed: TunnelVision vulnerability.** |
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| 16 | *This looks to be basically the same as the TunnelCrack vulnerability.* |
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| 17 | *Mitigations for TunnelCrack are underway but take time to deliver as the implementation is different on each platform.* |
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| 18 | *What we'll do is add a wiki article for TunnelVision that redirects to TunnelCrack statement already present on our wiki.* |
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| 19 | *We'll add a section there specific to the TunnelVision aspect of this.* |
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| 21 | - **Updated: Tunnelcrack progress [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack)** |
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| 22 | *Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations:* |
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| 23 | *Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review.* |
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| 24 | *Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress.* |
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| 25 | *macOS: to be determined.* |
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| 26 | *iOS: to be determined.* |
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| 27 | *Android: not vulnerable.* |
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| 29 | - **New: BlackHat announcement regarding 'OVPNX'.** |
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| 30 | *BlackHat announced a presentation about OVPNX vulnerabilities that lead to privilege escalation.* |
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| 31 | *This is by the same guy, Vladimir Tokarev, that reported these issues to us that we then solved.* |
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| 32 | *The problem is they are announcing it as zero-day vulnerabilities, which is simply not true.* |
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| 33 | *These were responsibly disclosed and in cooperation were fixed and published with the OpenVPN 2.6.10 and 2.5.10 releases.* |
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| 34 | *We did reach out to clarify things but haven't had a response yet.* |
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| 35 | *A security advisory and a blog post will be posted in the next day or so on the main website, and it will be added to the company newsletter as well.* |
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| 36 | *These will set the record straight that it's not zero-day, and furthermore point out that this is not that critical of an issue as you need privileges anyways to exploit it.* |
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| 37 | *Also this only affects OpenVPN2 GUI on Windows.* |
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| 39 | - **Updated: forums topics** |
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| 40 | *rob0 and novaflash volunteered to take a look at the web server config to make it work correctly.* |
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| 41 | *However due to other ongoing things, didn't have time yet, but will be able to spend time on it soonish.* |
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| 42 | *Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address.* |
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| 43 | *- email confirmation on registration was suggested.* |
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| 44 | *- mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic)* |
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| 45 | *- access for mods to logs so one can see what others did* |
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| 47 | - **Updated: mattock topics** |
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| 48 | *PR created to add t_server_null tests to buildbot.* |
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| 49 | *There's a parallelism issue to fix between t_server_null.sh and t_client.sh - will work on that.* |
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| 51 | - **Security mailing list procedure can stand improvement** |
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| 52 | *company will improve process on picking up tasks from security mailing list in the next week or so.* |
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| 53 | *The idea being that community guys will continue doing their thing as usual, and company guys monitor the list for company related items and follow up on those.* |
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| 54 | *The idea of an NDA is also revived. But it was made clear internally that we need like a one-page simple NDA for community members, not the unnecessarily restrictive one originally suggested by legal guys.* |
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| 56 | - **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change** |
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| 57 | *Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment.* |
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| 58 | *ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today.* |
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| 59 | *There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation.* |
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| 60 | *A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this.* |
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| 61 | *(in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API)* |
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| 63 | - **donation collection** |
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| 64 | *From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations.* |
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| 65 | *What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on.* |
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| 66 | *There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider.* |
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| 67 | *PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees.* |
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| 68 | *Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing.* |
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| 69 | *GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating.* |
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| 70 | *Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us.* |
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| 72 | - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** |
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| 73 | *Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it.* |
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| 74 | *Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined.* |
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| 75 | *When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024.* |
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| 76 | *Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest.* |
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| 77 | *Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design.* |
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| 78 | *There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [Community Meetup 2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024)* |
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| 80 | - **website release process** |
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| 81 | *Waiting for faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on main site.* |
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| 82 | *Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see.* |
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| 84 | - **Status of SBOM** |
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| 85 | *There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others.* |
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| 86 | *For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does.* |
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| 87 | *The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client.* |
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| 89 | - **status of trac/wiki** |
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| 90 | *No progress since last meeting.* |
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| 91 | *This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done* |
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| 92 | *Should have access controls so only approved members can edit.* |
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| 94 | - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** |
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| 95 | *This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini How-To](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/)* |
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| 96 | *company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [this GitHub document](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc.* |
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| 97 | *having a simple guide online will help adoption* |
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| 99 | - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** |
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| 100 | *tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco* |
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| 101 | *linux, freebsd, windows* |
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| 102 | *requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it* |
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| 104 | - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** |
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| 105 | *matt provided icons in [this GitHub issue](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595)* |
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| 106 | *last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time* |
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| 108 | - **software code signing topic** |
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| 109 | *company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing.* |
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| 110 | *in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys.* |
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| 111 | *depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure.* |
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| 112 | *also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now.* |
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| 114 | - **Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt** |
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| 115 | *novaflash will pick this up at some point* |
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| 117 | ## Mattock topics |
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| 119 | ### --dev null server testing |
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| 121 | Latest status in [Server Side Testing Improvement Plan](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Additional details in [GitHub document](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh). |
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| 123 | Potential next steps: |
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| 125 | - Expand the test suite |
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| 126 | - Integrate into Buildbot (i.e., get to production) |
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| 127 | - Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration) |
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| 129 | Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes/improvements here and there to be done: |
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| 131 | - Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default) |
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| 133 | ### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing |
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| 135 | - In a previous meeting, we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net* |
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| 136 | - The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/) |
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| 137 | - aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g., rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g., to a local filesystem on the buildmaster |
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| 138 | - **Option 1 (hacky):** use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net |
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| 139 | - **Option 2 (less hacky):** use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net |
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| 140 | - Both options require a fair amount of tinkering |
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| 141 | - Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers) |
