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6f02e7 Samuli Seppänen 2025-01-29 06:40:08 1
# IrcMeetings
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## Basic info
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- **Time:** Wednesday 8 May 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC)
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- **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network
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## Topics
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### Current topics
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- **Closed: Discussion related to DNS IV flag**
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*This was done with a IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_V2 proto flag.*
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- **New, closed: TunnelVision vulnerability.**
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*This looks to be basically the same as the TunnelCrack vulnerability.*
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*Mitigations for TunnelCrack are underway but take time to deliver as the implementation is different on each platform.*
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*What we'll do is add a wiki article for TunnelVision that redirects to TunnelCrack statement already present on our wiki.*
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*We'll add a section there specific to the TunnelVision aspect of this.*
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- **Updated: Tunnelcrack progress [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack)**
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*Status update on TunnelCrack mitigations:*
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*Windows, openvpn2: ready to merge. openvpn3: in code review.*
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*Linux, openvpn2: in progress. openvpn3: in progress.*
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*macOS: to be determined.*
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*iOS: to be determined.*
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*Android: not vulnerable.*
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- **New: BlackHat announcement regarding 'OVPNX'.**
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*BlackHat announced a presentation about OVPNX vulnerabilities that lead to privilege escalation.*
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*This is by the same guy, Vladimir Tokarev, that reported these issues to us that we then solved.*
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*The problem is they are announcing it as zero-day vulnerabilities, which is simply not true.*
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*These were responsibly disclosed and in cooperation were fixed and published with the OpenVPN 2.6.10 and 2.5.10 releases.*
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*We did reach out to clarify things but haven't had a response yet.*
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*A security advisory and a blog post will be posted in the next day or so on the main website, and it will be added to the company newsletter as well.*
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*These will set the record straight that it's not zero-day, and furthermore point out that this is not that critical of an issue as you need privileges anyways to exploit it.*
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*Also this only affects OpenVPN2 GUI on Windows.*
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- **Updated: forums topics**
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*rob0 and novaflash volunteered to take a look at the web server config to make it work correctly.*
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*However due to other ongoing things, didn't have time yet, but will be able to spend time on it soonish.*
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*Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address.*
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*- email confirmation on registration was suggested.*
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*- mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic)*
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*- access for mods to logs so one can see what others did*
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- **Updated: mattock topics**
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*PR created to add t_server_null tests to buildbot.*
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*There's a parallelism issue to fix between t_server_null.sh and t_client.sh - will work on that.*
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- **Security mailing list procedure can stand improvement**
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*company will improve process on picking up tasks from security mailing list in the next week or so.*
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*The idea being that community guys will continue doing their thing as usual, and company guys monitor the list for company related items and follow up on those.*
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*The idea of an NDA is also revived. But it was made clear internally that we need like a one-page simple NDA for community members, not the unnecessarily restrictive one originally suggested by legal guys.*
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- **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change**
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*Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment.*
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*ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today.*
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*There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation.*
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*A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this.*
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*(in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API)*
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- **donation collection**
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*From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations.*
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*What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on.*
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*There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider.*
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*PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees.*
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*Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing.*
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*GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating.*
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*Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us.*
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- **OpenVPN community meetup 2024**
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*Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it.*
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*Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined.*
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*When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024.*
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*Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest.*
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*Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design.*
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*There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [Community Meetup 2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024)*
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- **website release process**
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*Waiting for faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on main site.*
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*Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see.*
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- **Status of SBOM**
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*There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others.*
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*For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does.*
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*The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client.*
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- **status of trac/wiki**
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*No progress since last meeting.*
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*This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done*
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*Should have access controls so only approved members can edit.*
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- **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.**
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*This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini How-To](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/)*
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*company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [this GitHub document](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc.*
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*having a simple guide online will help adoption*
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- **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.**
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*tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco*
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*linux, freebsd, windows*
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*requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it*
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- **What's going on with new taskbar icons?**
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*matt provided icons in [this GitHub issue](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595)*
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*last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time*
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- **software code signing topic**
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*company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing.*
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*in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys.*
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*depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure.*
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*also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now.*
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- **Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt**
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*novaflash will pick this up at some point*
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## Mattock topics
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### --dev null server testing
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Latest status in [Server Side Testing Improvement Plan](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Additional details in [GitHub document](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh).
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Potential next steps:
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- Expand the test suite
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- Integrate into Buildbot (i.e., get to production)
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- Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration)
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Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes/improvements here and there to be done:
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- Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default)
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### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing
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- In a previous meeting, we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net*
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- The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/)
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- aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g., rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g., to a local filesystem on the buildmaster
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- **Option 1 (hacky):** use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net
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- **Option 2 (less hacky):** use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net
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- Both options require a fair amount of tinkering
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- Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers)