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6f02e7 Samuli Seppänen 2025-01-29 06:40:08 1
# IrcMeetings
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## Basic info
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- **Time**: Wednesday 24 April 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC)
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- **Place**: `#openvpn-meeting` channel on LiberaChat IRC network
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## Topics
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### Current topics
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- **New, closed: OpenSSL 1.0.2 removal from OpenVPN 2.7**
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- Currently plaisthos is still supporting OpenSSL 1.0.2 because of Access Server still releasing on CentOS7/Red Hat7.
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- Since we are dropping those platforms on Access Server, there appears to be no reason to keep supporting it.
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- There were no objections to removing openssl 1.0.2 support from OpenVPN 2.7.
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- **New: Discussion related to DNS IV flag**
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- The implementation of the dns option deviates somewhat from the original specification.
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- d12fk wants to discuss a possible solution using another IV flag.
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- A flag such as IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_V2 would be acceptable, as of OpenVPN 2.6.11.
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- IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION could be renamed to IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_OLD and marked as 'do not send'.
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- **Updated: forums topics**
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- ecrist still working on forums. waiting on ecrist to move things around.
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- ecrist requests that cloudflare be removed again. that's not really something that we want to do as we lose a lot of protection.
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- rob0 and novaflash would like to assist in solving this problem. they would need root access to the VM. perhaps djpig can arrange this?
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- Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address.
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- email confirmation on registration was suggested.
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- mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic)
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- access for mods to logs so one can see what others did.
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- **Updated: mattock topics**
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- PR created for the --dev null test suite. Fixed some issues based on feedback in #openvpn-devel.
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- Documentation here: [dev-null-test-suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst)
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- **Security mailing list procedure can stand improvement**
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- company will improve process on picking up tasks from security mailing list in the next week or so.
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- The idea being that community guys will continue doing their thing as usual, and company guys monitor the list for company-related items and follow up on those.
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- The idea of an NDA is also revived. But it was made clear internally that we need like a one-page simple NDA for community members, not the unnecessarily restrictive one originally suggested by legal guys.
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- **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change**
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- Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment.
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- ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today.
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- There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation.
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- A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this.
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- (in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API)
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- **donation collection**
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- From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations.
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- What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on.
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- There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider.
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- PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees.
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- Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing.
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- GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating.
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- Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us.
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- **OpenVPN community meetup 2024**
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- Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it.
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- Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined.
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- When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024.
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- Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest.
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- Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design.
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- There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [CommunityMeetup2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024)
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- **website release process**
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- Waiting for faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on main site.
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- Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see.
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- **Status of SBOM**
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- There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others.
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- For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does.
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- The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client.
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- **status of trac/wiki**
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- No progress since last meeting.
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- This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done
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- Should have access controls so only approved members can edit.
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- **Tunnelcrack progress**
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- Current status: when mitigations start appearing we will mention them in meeting notes.
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- **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.**
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- This page is outdated badly: [Static-key mini how-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/)
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- company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [example-fingerprint](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) info and also retain a link to that GitHub doc.
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- having a simple guide online will help adoption.
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- **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.**
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- tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco
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- linux, freebsd, windows
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- requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it.
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- **What's going on with new taskbar icons?**
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- matt provided icons in [openvpn-gui issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595)
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- last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time.
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- **software code signing topic**
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- company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing.
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- in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys.
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- depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure.
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- also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now.
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- **Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt**
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- novaflash will pick this up at some point.
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## Mattock topics
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### --dev null server testing
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Latest status in [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan]. Additional details in [dev-null-test-suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh).
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Potential next steps:
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- Expand the test suite
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- Integrate into Buildbot (i.e. get to production)
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- Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration)
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Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes / improvements here and there to be done:
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- Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default)
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### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing
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- In a previous meeting we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net*
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- The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/)
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- aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g. rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g. to a local filesystem on the buildmaster
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- **Option 1 (hacky)**: use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net
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- **Option 2 (less hacky)**: use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net
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- Both options require a fair amount of tinkering
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- Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers)