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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # IrcMeetings |
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| 3 | ## Basic info |
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| 5 | - **Time**: Wednesday 24 April 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 6 | - **Place**: `#openvpn-meeting` channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 8 | ## Topics |
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| 10 | ### Current topics |
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| 12 | - **New, closed: OpenSSL 1.0.2 removal from OpenVPN 2.7** |
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| 13 | - Currently plaisthos is still supporting OpenSSL 1.0.2 because of Access Server still releasing on CentOS7/Red Hat7. |
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| 14 | - Since we are dropping those platforms on Access Server, there appears to be no reason to keep supporting it. |
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| 15 | - There were no objections to removing openssl 1.0.2 support from OpenVPN 2.7. |
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| 17 | - **New: Discussion related to DNS IV flag** |
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| 18 | - The implementation of the dns option deviates somewhat from the original specification. |
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| 19 | - d12fk wants to discuss a possible solution using another IV flag. |
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| 20 | - A flag such as IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_V2 would be acceptable, as of OpenVPN 2.6.11. |
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| 21 | - IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION could be renamed to IV_PROTO_DNS_OPTION_OLD and marked as 'do not send'. |
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| 23 | - **Updated: forums topics** |
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| 24 | - ecrist still working on forums. waiting on ecrist to move things around. |
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| 25 | - ecrist requests that cloudflare be removed again. that's not really something that we want to do as we lose a lot of protection. |
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| 26 | - rob0 and novaflash would like to assist in solving this problem. they would need root access to the VM. perhaps djpig can arrange this? |
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| 27 | - Plan is to soon switch URLs so new forum is on forums.openvpn.net and old forums is on archive address. |
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| 28 | - email confirmation on registration was suggested. |
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| 29 | - mod permissions, guide, hard or soft delete (chuck board?), what to do with GDPR, etc. (write it down and actually make it available to mods, maybe a hidden topic) |
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| 30 | - access for mods to logs so one can see what others did. |
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| 32 | - **Updated: mattock topics** |
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| 33 | - PR created for the --dev null test suite. Fixed some issues based on feedback in #openvpn-devel. |
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| 34 | - Documentation here: [dev-null-test-suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst) |
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| 36 | - **Security mailing list procedure can stand improvement** |
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| 37 | - company will improve process on picking up tasks from security mailing list in the next week or so. |
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| 38 | - The idea being that community guys will continue doing their thing as usual, and company guys monitor the list for company-related items and follow up on those. |
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| 39 | - The idea of an NDA is also revived. But it was made clear internally that we need like a one-page simple NDA for community members, not the unnecessarily restrictive one originally suggested by legal guys. |
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| 41 | - **DCO and Linux upstreaming, API change** |
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| 42 | - Upstreaming DCO to Linux is proceeding, it is in review stage at the moment. |
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| 43 | - ordex will send a patchset v3 based on feedback received today. |
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| 44 | - There will be an API change that makes it incompatible with the current implementation. |
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| 45 | - A graceful solution to that was already discussed and in motion. giaan will be working on this. |
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| 46 | - (in a nutshell, make OpenVPN understand old and new API, DKMS and kernel versions both will then use new API, then we drop old API) |
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| 48 | - **donation collection** |
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| 49 | - From earlier exploration it is clear that setting up a legal entity is not worth the expense at this point. We're just starting out with donations. |
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| 50 | - What we can do is start out with an existing company that can collect the money and puts it to good community use. ordex volunteers to take this on. |
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| 51 | - There are some options to consider. There may be existing solutions that we want to consider. |
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| 52 | - PayPal seems overly expensive with all their fees. |
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| 53 | - Stripe could be worth considering for credit card processing. |
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| 54 | - GitHub Sponsors was mentioned as a possible solution, this is worth investigating. |
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| 55 | - Open Collective was also mentioned, that needs some investigating how that exactly would work for us. |
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| 57 | - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** |
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| 58 | - Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it. |
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| 59 | - Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. Meeting room location to be determined. |
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| 60 | - When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024. |
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| 61 | - Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest. |
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| 62 | - Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design. |
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| 63 | - There's a wiki page up now where we can coordinate: [CommunityMeetup2024](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CommunityMeetup2024) |
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| 65 | - **website release process** |
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| 66 | - Waiting for faster way to update community downloads and security advisories on main site. |
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| 67 | - Again postponed due to issues. Now planned for this week. We'll see. |
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| 69 | - **Status of SBOM** |
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| 70 | - There was a discussion between MaxF and djpig and others. |
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| 71 | - For OpenVPN2 / OpenVPN-NL, there is not much overlap, as OpenVPN2 doesn't ship much in terms of libraries, but OpenVPN-NL does. |
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| 72 | - The interesting use-case for an SBOM is really the OpenVPN Windows GUI client. |
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| 74 | - **status of trac/wiki** |
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| 75 | - No progress since last meeting. |
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| 76 | - This will probably have to wait until "--dev null" is done |
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| 77 | - Should have access controls so only approved members can edit. |
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| 79 | - **Tunnelcrack progress** |
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| 80 | - Current status: when mitigations start appearing we will mention them in meeting notes. |
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| 82 | - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** |
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| 83 | - This page is outdated badly: [Static-key mini how-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) |
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| 84 | - company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [example-fingerprint](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) info and also retain a link to that GitHub doc. |
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| 85 | - having a simple guide online will help adoption. |
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| 87 | - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** |
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| 88 | - tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco |
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| 89 | - linux, freebsd, windows |
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| 90 | - requires time to be dedicated to doing this, when time available will do it. |
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| 92 | - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** |
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| 93 | - matt provided icons in [openvpn-gui issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) |
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| 94 | - last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time. |
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| 96 | - **software code signing topic** |
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| 97 | - company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. |
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| 98 | - in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys. |
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| 99 | - depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure. |
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| 100 | - also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. |
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| 102 | - **Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt** |
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| 103 | - novaflash will pick this up at some point. |
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| 105 | ## Mattock topics |
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| 107 | ### --dev null server testing |
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| 109 | Latest status in [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan]. Additional details in [dev-null-test-suite](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/doc/dev-null-test-suite.rst). Current PoC code is available in mattock's "dev_null" branch. A good starting point is [t_server_null.sh](https://github.com/mattock/openvpn/blob/dev_null/tests/t_server_null.sh). |
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| 111 | Potential next steps: |
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| 112 | - Expand the test suite |
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| 113 | - Integrate into Buildbot (i.e. get to production) |
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| 114 | - Support multiple client versions (depends on Buildbot integration) |
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| 116 | Git commit history needs to be cleaned up and there may be other small fixes / improvements here and there to be done: |
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| 117 | - Enable disabling the test suite (requires root so we can't run it by default) |
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| 119 | ### Debian/Ubuntu snapshot publishing |
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| 121 | - In a previous meeting we agreed to publish snapshot Debian/Ubuntu packages on *build.openvpn.net* |
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| 122 | - The tool to use to publish is [aptly](https://www.aptly.info/) |
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| 123 | - aptly does not have direct support for running commands (e.g. rsync, scp) after publishing packages, e.g. to a local filesystem on the buildmaster |
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| 124 | - **Option 1 (hacky)**: use `inotifywait` with `rsync` or `scp` to copy the published repo to build.openvpn.net |
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| 125 | - **Option 2 (less hacky)**: use `NFS` to publish "directly" to build.openvpn.net |
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| 126 | - Both options require a fair amount of tinkering |
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| 127 | - Mattock moved this forward a bit at the buildbot end (get the files out from workers) |
