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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # Basic info |
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| 3 | - **Time:** Wednesday 31 January 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 4 | - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 6 | # Topics |
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| 8 | ## Current topics |
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| 10 | ### Closed: License amendment for OpenVPN2 to solve openssl/mbedtls licensing issues |
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| 11 | _All work on this is now completed._ |
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| 13 | ### New: security mailing list procedure can stand improvement |
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| 14 | _To be discussed in more detail later._ |
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| 16 | ### Updated: tasks related to build processes (Mattock) |
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| 17 | - Buildbot can now skip builds that don't touch irrelevant files ([PR #31](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-buildbot/pull/31)) |
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| 18 | - Which file and/or directory changes should trigger the buildbot builds? |
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| 19 | - Do we want the skipped builds to show up on the build state page? Or to be (almost) completely invisible to buildbot? |
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| 20 | - We do not have answers right now to these questions but the fact that we can now skip irrelevant things is great. |
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| 21 | - Extending the above: Have different Builders and build steps for different types of files |
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| 22 | - We can have more than one Scheduler per project (e.g. openvpn) |
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| 23 | - Each Scheduler can have a different Change Filters for builds that are relevant for that type of build |
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| 24 | - Each Scheduler links to a set of Builders |
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| 25 | - Each Builder runs different commands on the Worker (e.g. "autoreconf -vi && ./configure ..." or "do-something-else") |
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| 26 | - Example Schedulers: |
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| 27 | - **openvpn-default** Scheduler (=what we have now) would: |
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| 28 | - Trigger normal builds on all builders |
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| 29 | - No build would be triggered on documentation changes |
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| 30 | - **openvpn-rst** Scheduler would: |
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| 31 | - Trigger RST sanity check on one builder when `.rst` file changes |
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| 33 | ### Updated: OpenVPN 2.6.9 release |
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| 34 | _There is a small security issue reported in OpenVPN for Windows installer._ |
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| 35 | _Once this is resolved we can make the 2.6.9 release._ |
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| 36 | _lev, selva, and d12fk, are looking into this at the moment._ |
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| 37 | _dazo will work with lev to arrange a CVE report._ |
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| 39 | ### Updated: forums topics |
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| 40 | _There has been a lot of spam. An antispam module had expired. We fixed that. But there's still the occasional bit of spam._ |
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| 41 | _ecrist looked into setting up a new forum. Discovered that migrating data is not possible._ |
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| 42 | _Suggested approach is to run both old and new side-by-side and let people finish discussions on old forums while new is up. Then after some time make the old forum read-only._ |
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| 43 | _Regarding CloudFlare, currently not enabled on forums, but we will enable it at some point on the new VM._ |
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| 45 | ### packet header order |
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| 46 | _plaisthos wanted to get consensus/decision on whether we do that as part of the rekeying improvements._ |
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| 47 | _Generally in favor of adding a new negotiable packet format, so long as plaisthos and syzzer are in agreement._ |
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| 48 | _Currently this is still in progress/discussion._ |
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| 50 | ### status of trac/wiki |
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| 51 | _ordex wanted to discuss state of trac/wiki. Do we move to something else? Do we update existing?_ |
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| 52 | _mattock has been volunteered to look into alternatives._ |
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| 53 | _It must be open source. Self-hosted or hosted open-source both fine._ |
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| 54 | _There is no hard requirement for LDAP capability._ |
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| 55 | _Should have access controls so only approved members can edit._ |
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| 57 | ### status of community LDAP sign-in solution |
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| 58 | _We use it currently for forums, wiki, gerrit, patchwork. We are seriously considering getting rid of it._ |
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| 59 | _The reality is that 99.99% of forums users do not interact with the other tools._ |
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| 60 | _And that the small group of contributors to wiki and gerrit does not justify the need for an LDAP sign-in solution._ |
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| 61 | _So we're inclined to disconnect from LDAP. For the forums we already intend to do that now._ |
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| 62 | _No final decision reached at this time. Considering our options._ |
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| 64 | ### plan to improve server side testing |
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| 65 | _mattock posted [Server Side Testing Improvement Plan](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan#no1)_ |
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| 66 | _It's a plan to improve server side testing. mattock would like to get eyes on this and feedback._ |
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| 68 | ### TLS 1.0 PRF problem |
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| 69 | _Patches for this have been created and are in review, have not made it in yet._ |
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| 71 | ### community funding |
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| 72 | _ordex has an initiative he wants to bring up regarding dev resources to be added to community._ |
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| 73 | _This may tie into the donations topic._ |
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| 74 | _In short ordex convinced OTF (Open Tech Fund) to provide a "test FOSS funding scheme" to OpenVPN._ |
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| 75 | _This would for example allow to pay for allocated hours for mattock and cron2 to work on OpenVPN community tasks._ |
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| 76 | _This is to be worked out more and in collaboration between OpenVPN Community, OpenVPN Inc., and OTF._ |
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| 78 | ### Donations for OpenVPN community |
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| 79 | _There is currently no place to donate money to the community, and we do want to allow that._ |
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| 80 | _We need to figure out how to deal with that legally, and what payment methods to accept and how._ |
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| 81 | _Probably plastic-money is a must. Maybe PayPal as well. Bitcoin seems to encounter some resistance in the discussions._ |
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| 82 | _We definitely do not want the donation thing to be forced - have a mechanism to do it, but keep it out of the way._ |
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| 83 | _Random things yelled out (to investigate): legal entity? stripe? paypal? plastic-money? open collective? github sponsors? linux foundation? sf conservancy?_ |
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| 84 | _ordex suggested that he will take a look in January to figure out what legalities etc are involved in getting a legal entity for OpenVPN community._ |
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| 86 | ### Website release process woes |
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| 87 | _Website team continues to report that they are on the verge of launching the new stuff._ |
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| 88 | _But there is a release freeze planned for last weeks of December so we may not actually get it this year._ |
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| 90 | ### Tunnelcrack progress |
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| 91 | _Current status: when mitigations start appearing we will mention them in meeting notes._ |
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| 93 | ### OpenVPN community meetup 2024 |
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| 94 | _Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it, as we want to encourage developers and those interested in contributing to feel welcome._ |
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| 95 | _Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. It is a relatively central location in Europe and is fairly easily reachable by train. A meeting location is yet to be arranged._ |
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| 96 | _When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024._ |
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| 97 | _Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest._ |
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| 98 | _Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design._ |
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| 100 | ### Static-key mini how-to is outdated. |
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| 101 | _This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini How-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/)_ |
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| 102 | _company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [GitHub Info](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc._ |
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| 103 | _having a simple guide online will help adoption_ |
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| 105 | ### OpenVPN 2.6 performance results. |
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| 106 | _tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco_ |
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| 107 | _linux, freebsd, windows_ |
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| 108 | _requires time to be dedicated to doing this_ |
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| 109 | _when time available will do it_ |
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| 111 | ### What's going on with new taskbar icons? |
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| 112 | _matt provided icons in [GitHub Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595)_ |
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| 113 | _last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time_ |
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| 115 | ### security@openvpn.net mailing list |
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| 116 | _company is trying to get to soc2 compliance._ |
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| 117 | _probably will need a simple nda to be signed by recipients of emails to security@openvpn.net_ |
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| 118 | _company guy took standard nda we use for contractors, suggests to use that._ |
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| 119 | _novaflash thinks we should review that first to see if it's really suitable or not, community members are not contractors after all._ |
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| 121 | ### Another key signing topic |
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| 122 | _company switched EV code signing to cloudhsm, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing._ |
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| 123 | _in future we could possibly switch community to that same key. saves having to maintain 2 different keys._ |
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| 124 | _depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thingee from community infrastructure._ |
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| 125 | _also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now._ |
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| 127 | ### SBOM topic |
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| 128 | _cron2 was asked if openvpn has a software bill of materials. answer was no._ |
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| 129 | _coincidentally, in openvpn inc a security requirement is to have an SBOM so this is on our list of things to do_ |
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| 130 | _when we pick up this task we can coordinate on it._ |
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| 132 | ### Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt |
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| 133 | _novaflash will pick this up at some point_ |
