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# Basic info
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- **Time:** Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC)
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- **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network
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# Topics
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## Current topics
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### New: small security issue reported in OpenVPN GUI
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- lev is looking into this.
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- dazo will work with lev to arrange a CVE report.
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### Mattock needs things to do
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- [TracWikiReplacements](TracWikiReplacements)
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- There are a couple of potential Wiki alternatives in that list
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- More research or deploy something to get some experience on the options?
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- [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan)
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- Do we want to start doing some improvements on this front? If so, which would be a priority?
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- Buildbot
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- Mattock set up Buildbot master successfully on Ubuntu 20.04 (current production instance?) as well as Ubuntu 22.04 and Ubuntu 23.10
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- Any buildbot-related improvement we could do?
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- Maybe building snapshot packages (deb/rpm) in buildbot and publishing them automatically?
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- The pragmatic way would be to use FPM instead of "official" packaging tools
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- Cloudfront + S3 + aptly might be a good solution for public repos with minimal/non-existent management overhead
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### Closed: No meeting on 27th December or 3 January.
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- Normal meetings to resume on January 10 2024.
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### OpenVPN 2.6.9 release
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- Given that we're so close to the end of the year, we'll push this to next year.
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- The --tls-export-cert PR needs a little love first.
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- Tentative new release date is January 10.
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### Forums topics
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- There has been a lot of spam. An antispam module had expired. We fixed that. But there's still the occasional bit of spam.
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- We agreed in the last meeting to commit to a path to get a new VM and switch to vBulletin and disconnect from community LDAP logins.
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- The new VM is delivered, the license should be delivered this week too, so then ecrist can get to work.
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- Regarding CloudFlare, currently not enabled on forums, but we will enable it at some point on the new VM.
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### Status of Trac/Wiki
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- ordex wanted to discuss the state of Trac/Wiki. Do we move to something else? Do we update existing?
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- mattock has been volunteered to look into alternatives.
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- It must be open source. Self-hosted or hosted open-source both fine.
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- There is no hard requirement for LDAP capability.
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- Should have access controls so only approved members can edit.
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### Status of community LDAP sign-in solution
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- We use it currently for forums, wiki, gerrit, patchwork. We are seriously considering getting rid of it.
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- The reality is that 99.99% of forums users do not interact with the other tools.
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- And that the small group of contributors to wiki and gerrit does not justify the need for an LDAP sign-in solution.
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- So we're inclined to disconnect from LDAP. For the forums, we already intend to do that now.
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- No final decision reached at this time. Considering our options.
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### Packet header order
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- plaisthos wanted to get consensus/decision on whether we do that as part of the rekeying improvements.
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- Generally in favor of adding a new negotiable packet format, so long as plaisthos and syzzer are in agreement.
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### Plan to improve server-side testing
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- mattock posted [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan#no1)
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- It's a plan to improve server-side testing. mattock would like to get eyes on this and feedback.
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### TLS 1.0 PRF problem
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- Patches for this have been created and are in review, have not made it in yet.
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### Community funding
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- ordex has an initiative he wants to bring up regarding dev resources to be added to the community.
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- This may tie into the donations topic.
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- In short, ordex convinced OTF (Open Tech Fund) to provide a "test FOSS funding scheme" to OpenVPN.
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- This would for example allow paying for allocated hours for mattock and cron2 to work on OpenVPN community tasks.
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- This is to be worked out more and in collaboration between OpenVPN Community, OpenVPN Inc., and OTF.
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### Donations for OpenVPN community
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- There is currently no place to donate money to the community, and we do want to allow that.
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- We need to figure out how to deal with that legally, and what payment methods to accept and how.
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- Probably plastic-money is a must. Maybe PayPal as well. Bitcoin seems to encounter some resistance in the discussions.
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- We definitely do not want the donation thing to be forced - have a mechanism to do it, but keep it out of the way.
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- Random things yelled out (to investigate): legal entity? stripe? paypal? plastic-money? open collective? GitHub sponsors? Linux foundation? sf conservancy?
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- ordex suggested that he will take a look in January to figure out what legalities etc are involved in getting a legal entity for OpenVPN community.
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### Website release process woes
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- Website team continues to report that they are on the verge of launching the new stuff.
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- But there is a release freeze planned for the last weeks of December so we may not actually get it this year.
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### License amendment for OpenVPN2 to solve openssl/mbedtls licensing issues
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- For new contributions, the new license already applies.
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- The --tls-export-cert code was removed, and plaisthos will reimplement it.
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- Then it is up to dazo to review things so we can work on finalizing this.
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- One of the last tasks is reviewing if remaining items are trivial patches, and maybe get legal advice on those if necessary.
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### Tunnelcrack progress
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- [TunnelCrack community wiki article](wiki:TunnelCrack)
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- Current status: when mitigations start appearing, we will mention them in meeting notes.
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### OpenVPN community meetup 2024
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- Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it, as we want to encourage developers and those interested in contributing to feel welcome.
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- Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. It is a relatively central location in Europe and is fairly easily reachable by train. A meeting location is yet to be arranged.
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- When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024.
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- Who: We'll do an open invitation to the openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest.
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- Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design.
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### Static-key mini how-to is outdated.
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- This page is outdated badly: [Static-key mini how-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/)
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- The company will send this to a tech writer to redo based on [GitHub documentation](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) info and also retain a link to that GitHub doc.
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- Having a simple guide online will help adoption.
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### OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.
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- Tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco
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- Platforms: linux, freebsd, windows
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- Requires time to be dedicated to doing this
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- When time available will do it
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### What's going on with new taskbar icons?
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- matt provided icons in [GitHub Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595)
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- Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time
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### security@openvpn.net mailing list
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- The company is trying to get to SOC2 compliance.
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- Probably will need a simple NDA to be signed by recipients of emails to security@openvpn.net
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- The company guy took the standard NDA we use for contractors, suggests using that.
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- novaflash thinks we should review that first to see if it's really suitable or not, community members are not contractors after all.
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### Another key signing topic
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- The company switched EV code signing to CloudHSM, this is the same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing.
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- In the future, we could possibly switch the community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys.
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- Depends on how hard/easy it is to access the company key signing thingee from community infrastructure.
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- Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now.
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### SBOM topic
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- cron2 was asked if OpenVPN has a software bill of materials. The answer was no.
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- Coincidentally, in OpenVPN Inc a security requirement is to have an SBOM so this is on our list of things to do
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- When we pick up this task, we can coordinate on it.
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### Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt
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- novaflash will pick this up at some point.