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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # Basic info |
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| 3 | - **Time:** Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 4 | - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 6 | # Topics |
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| 8 | ## Current topics |
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| 10 | ### New: small security issue reported in OpenVPN GUI |
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| 11 | - lev is looking into this. |
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| 12 | - dazo will work with lev to arrange a CVE report. |
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| 14 | ### Mattock needs things to do |
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| 15 | - [TracWikiReplacements](TracWikiReplacements) |
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| 16 | - There are a couple of potential Wiki alternatives in that list |
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| 17 | - More research or deploy something to get some experience on the options? |
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| 18 | - [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan) |
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| 19 | - Do we want to start doing some improvements on this front? If so, which would be a priority? |
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| 20 | - Buildbot |
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| 21 | - Mattock set up Buildbot master successfully on Ubuntu 20.04 (current production instance?) as well as Ubuntu 22.04 and Ubuntu 23.10 |
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| 22 | - Any buildbot-related improvement we could do? |
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| 23 | - Maybe building snapshot packages (deb/rpm) in buildbot and publishing them automatically? |
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| 24 | - The pragmatic way would be to use FPM instead of "official" packaging tools |
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| 25 | - Cloudfront + S3 + aptly might be a good solution for public repos with minimal/non-existent management overhead |
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| 27 | ### Closed: No meeting on 27th December or 3 January. |
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| 28 | - Normal meetings to resume on January 10 2024. |
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| 30 | ### OpenVPN 2.6.9 release |
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| 31 | - Given that we're so close to the end of the year, we'll push this to next year. |
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| 32 | - The --tls-export-cert PR needs a little love first. |
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| 33 | - Tentative new release date is January 10. |
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| 35 | ### Forums topics |
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| 36 | - There has been a lot of spam. An antispam module had expired. We fixed that. But there's still the occasional bit of spam. |
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| 37 | - We agreed in the last meeting to commit to a path to get a new VM and switch to vBulletin and disconnect from community LDAP logins. |
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| 38 | - The new VM is delivered, the license should be delivered this week too, so then ecrist can get to work. |
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| 39 | - Regarding CloudFlare, currently not enabled on forums, but we will enable it at some point on the new VM. |
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| 41 | ### Status of Trac/Wiki |
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| 42 | - ordex wanted to discuss the state of Trac/Wiki. Do we move to something else? Do we update existing? |
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| 43 | - mattock has been volunteered to look into alternatives. |
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| 44 | - It must be open source. Self-hosted or hosted open-source both fine. |
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| 45 | - There is no hard requirement for LDAP capability. |
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| 46 | - Should have access controls so only approved members can edit. |
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| 48 | ### Status of community LDAP sign-in solution |
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| 49 | - We use it currently for forums, wiki, gerrit, patchwork. We are seriously considering getting rid of it. |
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| 50 | - The reality is that 99.99% of forums users do not interact with the other tools. |
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| 51 | - And that the small group of contributors to wiki and gerrit does not justify the need for an LDAP sign-in solution. |
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| 52 | - So we're inclined to disconnect from LDAP. For the forums, we already intend to do that now. |
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| 53 | - No final decision reached at this time. Considering our options. |
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| 55 | ### Packet header order |
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| 56 | - plaisthos wanted to get consensus/decision on whether we do that as part of the rekeying improvements. |
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| 57 | - Generally in favor of adding a new negotiable packet format, so long as plaisthos and syzzer are in agreement. |
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| 59 | ### Plan to improve server-side testing |
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| 60 | - mattock posted [ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan#no1) |
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| 61 | - It's a plan to improve server-side testing. mattock would like to get eyes on this and feedback. |
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| 63 | ### TLS 1.0 PRF problem |
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| 64 | - Patches for this have been created and are in review, have not made it in yet. |
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| 66 | ### Community funding |
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| 67 | - ordex has an initiative he wants to bring up regarding dev resources to be added to the community. |
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| 68 | - This may tie into the donations topic. |
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| 69 | - In short, ordex convinced OTF (Open Tech Fund) to provide a "test FOSS funding scheme" to OpenVPN. |
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| 70 | - This would for example allow paying for allocated hours for mattock and cron2 to work on OpenVPN community tasks. |
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| 71 | - This is to be worked out more and in collaboration between OpenVPN Community, OpenVPN Inc., and OTF. |
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| 73 | ### Donations for OpenVPN community |
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| 74 | - There is currently no place to donate money to the community, and we do want to allow that. |
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| 75 | - We need to figure out how to deal with that legally, and what payment methods to accept and how. |
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| 76 | - Probably plastic-money is a must. Maybe PayPal as well. Bitcoin seems to encounter some resistance in the discussions. |
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| 77 | - We definitely do not want the donation thing to be forced - have a mechanism to do it, but keep it out of the way. |
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| 78 | - Random things yelled out (to investigate): legal entity? stripe? paypal? plastic-money? open collective? GitHub sponsors? Linux foundation? sf conservancy? |
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| 79 | - ordex suggested that he will take a look in January to figure out what legalities etc are involved in getting a legal entity for OpenVPN community. |
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| 81 | ### Website release process woes |
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| 82 | - Website team continues to report that they are on the verge of launching the new stuff. |
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| 83 | - But there is a release freeze planned for the last weeks of December so we may not actually get it this year. |
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| 85 | ### License amendment for OpenVPN2 to solve openssl/mbedtls licensing issues |
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| 86 | - For new contributions, the new license already applies. |
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| 87 | - The --tls-export-cert code was removed, and plaisthos will reimplement it. |
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| 88 | - Then it is up to dazo to review things so we can work on finalizing this. |
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| 89 | - One of the last tasks is reviewing if remaining items are trivial patches, and maybe get legal advice on those if necessary. |
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| 91 | ### Tunnelcrack progress |
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| 92 | - [TunnelCrack community wiki article](wiki:TunnelCrack) |
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| 93 | - Current status: when mitigations start appearing, we will mention them in meeting notes. |
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| 95 | ### OpenVPN community meetup 2024 |
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| 96 | - Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it, as we want to encourage developers and those interested in contributing to feel welcome. |
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| 97 | - Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. It is a relatively central location in Europe and is fairly easily reachable by train. A meeting location is yet to be arranged. |
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| 98 | - When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024. |
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| 99 | - Who: We'll do an open invitation to the openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest. |
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| 100 | - Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design. |
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| 102 | ### Static-key mini how-to is outdated. |
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| 103 | - This page is outdated badly: [Static-key mini how-to](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) |
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| 104 | - The company will send this to a tech writer to redo based on [GitHub documentation](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) info and also retain a link to that GitHub doc. |
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| 105 | - Having a simple guide online will help adoption. |
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| 107 | ### OpenVPN 2.6 performance results. |
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| 108 | - Tests should cover: gre, ipsec, userland, dco |
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| 109 | - Platforms: linux, freebsd, windows |
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| 110 | - Requires time to be dedicated to doing this |
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| 111 | - When time available will do it |
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| 113 | ### What's going on with new taskbar icons? |
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| 114 | - matt provided icons in [GitHub Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) |
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| 115 | - Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time |
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| 117 | ### security@openvpn.net mailing list |
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| 118 | - The company is trying to get to SOC2 compliance. |
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| 119 | - Probably will need a simple NDA to be signed by recipients of emails to security@openvpn.net |
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| 120 | - The company guy took the standard NDA we use for contractors, suggests using that. |
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| 121 | - novaflash thinks we should review that first to see if it's really suitable or not, community members are not contractors after all. |
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| 123 | ### Another key signing topic |
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| 124 | - The company switched EV code signing to CloudHSM, this is the same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. |
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| 125 | - In the future, we could possibly switch the community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys. |
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| 126 | - Depends on how hard/easy it is to access the company key signing thingee from community infrastructure. |
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| 127 | - Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. |
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| 129 | ### SBOM topic |
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| 130 | - cron2 was asked if OpenVPN has a software bill of materials. The answer was no. |
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| 131 | - Coincidentally, in OpenVPN Inc a security requirement is to have an SBOM so this is on our list of things to do |
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| 132 | - When we pick up this task, we can coordinate on it. |
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| 134 | ### Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt |
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| 135 | - novaflash will pick this up at some point. |
