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| 6f02e7 | Samuli Seppänen | 2025-01-29 06:40:08 | 1 | # Basic Info |
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| 3 | - **Time:** Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 13:00 CEST (11:00 UTC) |
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| 4 | - **Place:** #openvpn-meeting channel on LiberaChat IRC network |
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| 6 | # Topics |
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| 8 | ## Current Topics |
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| 10 | - **Closed: License amendment for OpenVPN2 to solve openssl/mbedtls licensing issues** |
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| 11 | - All work on this is now completed. |
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| 13 | - **New: security mailing list procedure can stand improvement** |
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| 14 | - To be discussed in more detail later. |
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| 16 | - **Updated: tasks related to build processes (Mattock)** |
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| 17 | - Buildbot can now skip builds that don't touch irrelevant files ([PR #31](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-buildbot/pull/31)) |
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| 18 | - Which file and/or directory changes should trigger the buildbot builds? |
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| 19 | - Do we want the skipped builds to show up on the build state page? Or to be (almost) completely invisible to buildbot? |
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| 20 | - We do not have answers right now to these questions but the fact that we can now skip irrelevant things is great. |
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| 21 | - Extending the above: Have different Builders and build steps for different types of files |
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| 22 | - We can have more than one Scheduler per project (e.g. openvpn) |
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| 23 | - Each Scheduler can have a different Change Filters for builds that are relevant for that type of build |
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| 24 | - Each Scheduler links to a set of Builders |
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| 25 | - Each Builder runs different commands on the Worker (e.g. "autoreconf -vi && ./configure ..." or "do-something-else") |
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| 26 | - Example Schedulers: |
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| 27 | - **openvpn-default** Scheduler (=what we have now) would: |
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| 28 | - Trigger normal builds on all builders |
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| 29 | - No build would be triggered on documentation changes |
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| 30 | - **openvpn-rst** Scheduler would: |
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| 31 | - Trigger RST sanity check on one builder when .rst file changes |
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| 33 | - **Updated: OpenVPN 2.6.9 release** |
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| 34 | - There is a small security issue reported in OpenVPN for Windows installer. |
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| 35 | - Once this is resolved we can make the 2.6.9 release. |
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| 36 | - lev, selva, and d12fk, are looking into this at the moment. |
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| 37 | - dazo will work with lev to arrange a CVE report. |
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| 39 | - **Updated: forums topics** |
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| 40 | - There has been a lot of spam. An antispam module had expired. We fixed that. But there's still the occasional bit of spam. |
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| 41 | - ecrist looked into setting up a new forum. Discovered that migrating data is not possible. |
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| 42 | - Suggested approach is to run both old and new side-by-side and let people finish discussions on old forums while new is up. Then after some time make the old forum read-only. |
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| 43 | - Regarding CloudFlare, currently not enabled on forums, but we will enable it at some point on the new VM. |
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| 45 | - **packet header order** |
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| 46 | - plaisthos wanted to get consensus/decision on whether we do that as part of the rekeying improvements. |
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| 47 | - Generally in favor of adding a new negotiable packet format, so long as plaisthos and syzzer are in agreement. |
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| 48 | - Currently this is still in progress/discussion. |
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| 50 | - **status of trac/wiki** |
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| 51 | - ordex wanted to discuss state of trac/wiki. Do we move to something else? Do we update existing? |
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| 52 | - mattock has been volunteered to look into alternatives. |
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| 53 | - It must be open source. Self-hosted or hosted open-source both fine. |
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| 54 | - There is no hard requirement for LDAP capability. |
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| 55 | - Should have access controls so only approved members can edit. |
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| 57 | - **status of community LDAP sign-in solution** |
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| 58 | - We use it currently for forums, wiki, gerrit, patchwork. We are seriously considering getting rid of it. |
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| 59 | - The reality is that 99.99% of forums users do not interact with the other tools. |
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| 60 | - And that the small group of contributors to wiki and gerrit does not justify the need for an LDAP sign-in solution. |
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| 61 | - So we're inclined to disconnect from LDAP. For the forums we already intend to do that now. |
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| 62 | - No final decision reached at this time. Considering our options. |
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| 64 | - **plan to improve server side testing** |
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| 65 | - mattock posted a [plan to improve server side testing](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/ServerSideTestingImprovementPlan#no1). |
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| 66 | - mattock would like to get eyes on this and feedback. |
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| 68 | - **TLS 1.0 PRF problem** |
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| 69 | - Patches for this have been created and are in review, have not made it in yet. |
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| 71 | - **community funding** |
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| 72 | - ordex has an initiative he wants to bring up regarding dev resources to be added to community. |
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| 73 | - This may tie into the donations topic. |
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| 74 | - In short ordex convinced OTF (Open Tech Fund) to provide a "test FOSS funding scheme" to OpenVPN. |
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| 75 | - This would for example allow to pay for allocated hours for mattock and cron2 to work on OpenVPN community tasks. |
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| 76 | - This is to be worked out more and in collaboration between OpenVPN Community, OpenVPN Inc., and OTF. |
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| 78 | - **Donations for OpenVPN community** |
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| 79 | - There is currently no place to donate money to the community, and we do want to allow that. |
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| 80 | - We need to figure out how to deal with that legally, and what payment methods to accept and how. |
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| 81 | - Probably plastic-money is a must. Maybe Paypal as well. Bitcoin seems to encounter some resistance in the discussions. |
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| 82 | - We definitely do not want the donation thing to be forced - have a mechanism to do it, but keep it out of the way. |
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| 83 | - Random things yelled out (to investigate): legal entity? stripe? paypal? plastic-money? open collective? github sponsors? linux foundation? sf conservancy? |
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| 84 | - ordex suggested that he will take a look in January to figure out what legalities etc are involved in getting a legal entity for OpenVPN community. |
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| 86 | - **Website release process woes** |
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| 87 | - Website team continues to report that they are on the verge of launching the new stuff. |
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| 88 | - But there is a release freeze planned for last weeks of December so we may not actually get it this year. |
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| 90 | - **Tunnelcrack progress** |
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| 91 | - Current status: when mitigations start appearing we will mention them in meeting notes. |
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| 92 | - [TunnelCrack community wiki article](https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TunnelCrack) |
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| 94 | - **OpenVPN community meetup 2024** |
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| 95 | - Naming: We decided to rename from 'Hackathon' to 'OpenVPN community meetup'. This has a more open spirit to it, as we want to encourage developers and those interested in contributing to feel welcome. |
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| 96 | - Where: Karlsruhe, Germany. It is a relatively central location in Europe and is fairly easily reachable by train. A meeting location is yet to be arranged. |
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| 97 | - When: At the moment tentatively set to 20-22 September 2024. |
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| 98 | - Who: We'll do an open invitation to openvpn-devel mailing list, but also CC: specifically past attendees and people of interest. |
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| 99 | - Shirts: There is plenty of time still to prepare a shirt design. |
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| 101 | - **Static-key mini how-to is outdated.** |
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| 102 | - This page is outdated badly: [Static Key Mini How-To](https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/) |
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| 103 | - Company will send this to tech writer to redo based on [example fingerprint info](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/master/doc/man-sections/example-fingerprint.rst) and also retain a link to that GitHub doc. |
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| 104 | - Having a simple guide online will help adoption. |
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| 106 | - **OpenVPN 2.6 performance results.** |
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| 107 | - Tests should cover: GRE, IPsec, userland, DCO |
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| 108 | - Platforms: Linux, FreeBSD, Windows |
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| 109 | - Requires time to be dedicated to doing this |
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| 110 | - When time available will do it. |
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| 112 | - **What's going on with new taskbar icons?** |
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| 113 | - matt provided icons in [Issue #595](https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn-gui/issues/595) |
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| 114 | - Last update: will be picked up by selva when he has time. |
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| 116 | - **security@openvpn.net mailing list** |
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| 117 | - Company is trying to get to SOC2 compliance. |
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| 118 | - Probably will need a simple NDA to be signed by recipients of emails to security@openvpn.net |
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| 119 | - Company guy took standard NDA we use for contractors, suggests to use that. |
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| 120 | - novaflash thinks we should review that first to see if it's really suitable or not, community members are not contractors after all. |
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| 122 | - **Another key signing topic** |
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| 123 | - Company switched EV code signing to CloudHSM, this is same cert type we use for driver signing, is also suitable for binary signing. |
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| 124 | - In future we could possibly switch community to that same key. Saves having to maintain 2 different keys. |
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| 125 | - Depends on how hard/easy it is to access company key signing thing from community infrastructure. |
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| 126 | - Also no high priority at the moment, we have a working solution now. |
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| 128 | - **SBOM topic** |
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| 129 | - cron2 was asked if OpenVPN has a software bill of materials. Answer was no. |
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| 130 | - Coincidentally, in OpenVPN Inc a security requirement is to have an SBOM so this is on our list of things to do. |
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| 131 | - When we pick up this task we can coordinate on it. |
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| 133 | - **Management interface documentation on main website will be updated with info from doc/management-notes.txt** |
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| 134 | - novaflash will pick this up at some point. |
